#51 - Trying to Riff on Voicemails Like Theo Von

We are officially live in the Upstairs Studio.

We have a really good episode planned because this episode isn't about us.

It's about the listeners.

Yeah.

Who's ever listened to the Talk to People Podcast anytime throughout the past 50, 51 episodes, I guess, now of Talk to People Podcast?

And we just did the year-end review, Spotify Wrapped, and it said that the Talk to People Podcast was in the top five of several hundred people.

Yeah.

And it was the number one podcast for 60 different people.

That's pretty crazy.

That's pretty good.

So we are all about that action, all about that life.

And we asked you all to send in some emails, send in some voicemails, so we'll make sure that we hit those.

But I think that this episode, the past few episodes have been a bit different.

Starting 2024, we're going to get back into the swing of things and have episodes dedicated towards the goal and the focus of this podcast.

Yet we wanted to use this holiday break as we're doing all of our travel to hit our...

For instance, we had our celebration, then we have our audience engagement and upcoming, we're going to have a cool episode.

Yeah, we're going to have fun things planned.

I'm excited for it.

Once all of that wraps up, then we're going to be getting into consistent, getting guests back, but also seeing where 2024 goes.

So it was really cool to see from the beginning of 2023 to the end of 2023, how it's gone.

And now, you know, I don't want to spoil the New Year's episode, but it is cool to imagine where it could go.

Yes, and all the possibilities.

I mean, like even just like the past year of podcasting, that's pretty like pretty crazy.

It's a lot of fun.

I know I wasn't there for most of it, but like this is insane, though.

This is happening.

It is.

And you you got to hop in at around what number 40?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So the last 20 percent, which is pretty impressive because you've already made quite the mark.

And we have at the bottom right of our strategy whiteboard, we have a hundred written down because the goal is to be able to get 50 more, which is like it's another year.

Basically, if you can get 50 in a year, you get 50 next year and 150 the year after.

And it grows and it grows.

And that's one of the things that I've been thinking about is it's been important for me for this first year to hit one a week.

And the reason why is because I kind of made that commitment to myself.

I want to make sure I do this for at least a year and have one a week the whole entire year.

And I think moving forward, I'm going to have a bit more freedom with the idea of maybe, and I'm still trying to figure out what the best timeline is, but there's not as much pressure to hit one a week.

Rather, the pressure is more of providing quality.

And this is something I'm learning with YouTube.

It doesn't matter if you post on YouTube every week.

It's not going to give you more if you post more.

Like people are doing daily challenges and they'll post something new every day.

That doesn't help their numbers.

It matters if you're adding quality.

So some of our podcasts, we just looked at a lot of the analytics with our podcast, and a lot of the episodes that performed well, you know, it wasn't because we were shooting out a whole bunch.

It was because we had a little strategy with them, right?

Yeah.

So that will be a good change too, is thinking about, all right, well, what value can we add?

Maybe having a bit more interaction with the listeners to understand what they want.

Right?

That could be good.

And I think also, like I said, not only asking what they want, but also engaging with them.

Because it's kind of like a conversation.

Not only conversation between people sitting here in the room, but conversation between people who are listening, people who are discovering for the first time.

It's a conversation, and they can like, oh, that's a good point.

And then comment, be like, oh my God, I really love this point.

Talk more about that.

I'm like, the whole episode that we did about small talking, everyone deals with small talk, and people sent in questions about small talk.

That was a beautiful episode.

I think that's why, because people were engaging, not only just listening, but also commenting and being like, I have a question about how to get past the awkwardness of small talk.

Well, it's good.

Let's talk about that.

Let's do a whole episode about that, too.

Any kind of questions or anything that people have, just submit.

You can always shoot them in.

So I have a few different...

Let's hop in.

I have a few different voice memos.

We'll start with the first, and then we'll go from there, all right?

Hey, Chris.

I have to tell you about what happened recently after I read your article on connectivity versus loneliness.

We were on vacation for a few weeks in a family friend.

They own a home in Hawaii, and so we were blessed with that.

We were at the beach, and after I read your article, I really had my years turning on the importance of talking to strangers.

Okay, so Hawaii at a beach, on vacation, thinking about talking to strangers.

I thought to myself, should I interject?

Do I want to try and be like Theo Von?

I don't think I want to try and be like Theo Von, but for some reason, I still interjected.

Yeah.

To the thing about talking about it.

Well, it's interesting because when I'm on vacation, I'm not thinking about other people.

Right.

It's about me, me, me.

I'm chilling.

I'm not like if someone's, if they're a random stranger and they're also on vacation, cool.

But I'm going to do my own thing.

But the fact that your words spoke to her and to think like she got her gears turning about going out to talk to someone while on vacation, that's pretty good.

Yeah, that's a really good point.

So when this local approached us, I really forced myself to step outside of my comfort zone and talk to this local gentleman.

We ended up giving him our phone number, and a few days later, he called us and offered us some freshwater fish.

And by freshwater fish, I mean saltwater fish that were fresh from the ocean.

We met him in a public place and he ended up giving us tons of different fish.

And Chris, it was not the kind of fish you get in Missouri or Kansas.

It was true Hawaiian ocean saltwater fish.

It was amazing.

It tasted so good no matter how we cooked it.

And I think that's just such a testament to what you're doing with the podcast and all the work that you're putting in on LinkedIn and writing these articles.

So just a thank you for putting this out in the world.

Well, thank you to Angela for sending that in.

So they got some fish.

They got some fish, freshwater fish from a local, a complete stranger than them.

You know, that's pretty crazy.

In Hawaii, yeah.

Talking to people, going out there, talking to strangers.

You know, I have some funny stories about things like that.

Have you ever had a moment where you talk to a stranger and it went, something happened unexpected?

A complete another stranger.

I mean, like, yeah, but it was also, it was always in the confines of like, at a new job, you know, a bunch of coworkers.

They're strangers when you first meet them, or like school, a bunch of classmates that you don't know.

So, yes, but it was always in that kind of like bubble of schoolwork.

So it was always, I had something to talk about, and it was like, they were complete strangers.

Like, let's say a new hire came in, and I've been there for a little while.

There will be a complete new stranger, but I'll be like, how you doing?

Getting the conversation rolling.

And now some of those are like my best friends.

So it's, yeah, I guess.

So strangers, yeah.

Yeah.

And that's a great way to do conversation, is use the excuse you have.

For instance, we're working on our house right now, so we just had an exterminator come over, and then we had a plumber come over, and we had someone move in a couch.

Those were three different people.

And with each person, I talk to them a little bit about what they do, but then I kind of transcended that.

And it was, oh, how long have you been doing this?

Is always one of the best questions to ask, because then they'll tell you, oh, I've been doing it for three years, and you're like, oh, how have you liked it?

What were you doing before this?

Do you find it to be what you expected?

All of these different questions.

And that's really helped me.

So using the excuse of, hey, come check out my house, and then when they're here, you are talking to them more than that.

I'm sure some of them are like, I'm just going to look at your stuff.

Yeah, I was here to do my job.

You know, I think it also depends on the situation.

If they're here to work kind of for you, in an instance, it's kind of more like, I just want to get my job done.

But some people, some people are like, oh my gosh, this guy's like talking to me.

Some people are just like, oh wow.

Yeah, like, wow, thank you for talking to me.

Most people just kind of like sit there and watch me do my job.

I like a good engagement and audience engagement.

Everybody's engaging.

It's a conversation.

It is a conversation.

And it's also a great point that you need to be able to recognize and people don't want to talk.

That's also true.

You need to learn social cues or even not even just social cues, but understand when people's social battery is low.

Because maybe this person has been working literally the past 12 hours, and they come to your house, they're like, honestly, I don't want to talk.

Everyone's been talking to me my whole day.

I prefer just to come here, get my job done and go home.

You know, it's also take that like awareness to realize, oh, they don't want to talk to me right now.

And that's fine.

All right, let's see who we got here.

120 seconds, we got to hurry up.

Hey, this is Carista Santiago.

Carista, go first.

We got to go fast because we over recorded so many times already.

So it sounds like this is their third, fourth take.

Yeah, I am still figuring out like the Internet voicemail system for the podcast website.

So thank you for recording several times.

You are.

So I don't have a favorite episode.

And the reason why is because I think I took little golden nuggets from each and every single podcast that you have.

Why are you giggling about golden nuggets?

This is what happens when you get the two of us together.

And anyways, I learned a lot from just each and every episode.

I got something from them.

OK, Santiago, I'll give you the rest of the time because you're long winded.

OK, so Karista, then Santiago.

Yeah, do you?

It's funny, you know, a weirdly question.

Do you think that's how you and Annie are together?

You guys like, you're like, how are you doing?

Stop, stop, stop, stop, you know?

Or is it like, you know, that they're a married couple, you're a married couple?

Yeah, it's definitely hard trying to figure out who goes when.

Who goes when, yeah.

Like, we were, even when we were doing our video to promote this voicemail engagement, remember how many times we sat here trying to figure out our turns?

Who goes when?

Then it's like, all right, we're just going for it.

But one of the things I do really love about Santiago and Krista is that they keep stuff like this in.

Yeah, yeah.

Rather than making it the perfect take.

Yeah.

Right.

It's so much more relatable.

And I think regarding human relationships, we can't relate to people who are perfect.

So it's a good encouragement just to be yourself.

And also, I don't think anybody's perfect.

They might have a, they might put on a perfect persona, but, you know, like on social media or something like that, but they're not perfect.

There's no, no.

So they, it's like, that's Marvel in that, and that's what they're really good at.

What I, I like, my favorite moment of the podcast is because my wife was in it because she's so amazing.

I love her.

And then, and then also, it's just an eye-opener to how many people in different parts of their lives, they experience loneliness.

It's been like an eye-opener to it.

It's a real thing.

It's something that's out there.

And I, you know, I like all the things that you've said about it and educators about it.

And, you know, I really enjoy the podcast and just here for multiple points of view and how, you know, things work out.

But I really appreciate it.

I look forward to seeing where it goes.

And this is...

This is per edit.

No, we're 120 seconds.

That means that we still have 40, 35 seconds right now.

Okay, signing out.

This is Carista and Santiago.

Love you guys.

Wow, that's wholesome.

That is wholesome.

He said, I'm excited to see where it goes.

Yeah, me too.

And that is the cool part, seeing all the different people in all the different stages of life.

Yeah.

And like we talked a little bit about this earlier too, but like the different perspectives you have on this podcast, you have CEOs, you have, you know, people who are, you know, people off the streets or not off the streets, but like, you know, just like, you know, or like people from church, people from work, you know, and all this people, all these people from different aspects and different chapters in their lives coming here to talk about, you know, talking or give insight or advice about talking to one another.

You know, it's a good, it's very educational, like what Santi said.

Oftentimes that education comes whenever we're not expecting it.

And that was a cool part is from these episodes.

There'd be one idea, and then we ended up taking another idea.

So we got an email.

Oh, yeah.

We got an email and it says, Dear Chris and Logan, I'm glad you gave your podcast community the opportunity to be a part of this podcast episode.

I enjoyed your conversation with Annie about how the podcast started and how it helps continuing and how it continues to help people understand the importance of sharing the lives with others.

What makes me so proud is the success of the podcast, how it has encouraged all of us to listen and take the time to communicate with others.

Your decision to go forward with the podcast is a generous gesture of teaching others the tips and techniques of being available to others in a world that is in need of confidence of daily self-expression.

I thank God for providing and increasing your resources as you move forward, giving your time and talents to the Talk to People Podcast.

Sincerely, my mom.

I love you, mom.

That's so cool.

I didn't do that coming.

It was like he said, sincerely, my mom.

I love you, mom.

If you're listening, we both are very grateful for your kind words, and it's always nice to hear it from someone who knows you best.

Yeah.

Probably even more than you think you know yourself at times.

Sometimes my mom will call me out on things.

I'm like, wow, you're right.

I do do that.

Right.

It's good to have.

I think that's the goal, right?

Like self-discovery is cool, but if you can have those people around you who can speak life into you, it's unbeatable, undefeated.

And I think mothers do that best.

You know, just how much like because they have so many years on us in general, because I don't know if you ever thought about this, but like you won't only know your parents for a fraction of their lives, but they know you for all of your life.

What do they call that?

The cradle?

It's not a cradle to grave relationship.

So like siblings are the only cradle to grave relationship on average, because your kids, you know them from the cradle, but typically you don't see them to the grave because you died before them.

And then your parents, you see them at the grave, but you don't see them at the cradle because they were born before you.

But your siblings are the only typically cradle to grave, which is crazy.

I never heard that cradle to grave relationship.

Okay, I got a text saying, I've been watching your 50th episode today at work.

It's been so fun to see your leap of faith pay off.

Shout out to Katie Johnson, Trent Howard messaged in.

Shout out to FamEasy Trent Howard.

And he had mentioned, congrats on 50 that takes an extraordinary amount of commitment and consistency.

And yeah, I think you show that best, your consistency to always post on Mondays.

Always be like, in a sense, they aren't ready with an episode.

I mean, they don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

But they see every day, every Monday, there's going to be a new episode.

Right.

Sometimes they know it, and sometimes they don't.

And them not knowing for the next coming episodes, it's going to be a lot of fun.

It's going to be a surprise for everybody.

But yeah, I think that's probably the best part about this whole, like, just your consistency.

And it's been, like, I don't know if I'd be sitting here if it weren't for you, because this morning, AT&T was giving me a hassle, and they took my joy.

I let them take my joy.

I was upset this morning, and I had stuff I needed to do, and I didn't get it done.

So then I had to rush, and I wasn't feeling the most creative yet still.

It's like, okay, and I go to Oklahoma in a couple hours, and I'll be gone for several nights.

So thinking about, God, man, if I want to get something out, it's good to have accountability, and that's a really good reason to build a team, because you have that.

And not only just, like, not in, like, creative spaces like this, but in life, too.

I have that accountable partner from when you're struggling, when you're failing, whatever, and having that somebody or even like a team, a group of people that you can go to and be like, hey, listen, I want to do this, and you guys will hold me accountable, or like, I'm trying to stop doing this, and you guys will hold me accountable, and them being like, yeah, yeah, well, we got you, you know.

But I want the same thing for me in return.

If I'm struggling, we're going through something, or if I want to do something, you need to hold me accountable for me to do that or to stop that, you know, in any aspect of life, I think.

Right.

The beauty of building that relational net.

Yes.

And it's kind of like a force field, too.

It pushes us, like the velocity superhero character.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

TBD.

Okay, here's another one.

I absolutely love all of the episodes I've listened to, but my favorites have been the ones with Annie.

I just feel like, you know, it's it is very clear that you two have so much like energy.

And, you know, obviously, as a married couple, you talk a lot.

And so you just have such a great presence with one another.

And I just love listening to you both.

Those are my favorite episodes.

They always make me smile.

And I'm just obsessed.

That is what I listen to when I need to feel happy and energized and excited.

I'm like, OK, let me go re-listen to one of these episodes, because I know it will put me in a good mood.

Oh, that's also very wholesome.

Yeah, it is.

I also think like, I think most of any episodes or people, when you're talking to any people are always engaging, you know, do you and her have some good chemistry together?

Obviously, for, you know, you guys are married, but like, you guys also just a good conversationist, both you guys.

So I think when you guys are in a room together talking about any subject, it's just going to be good, good conversation to listen to.

Yeah, and yeah, like RC.

So the person who sent that in, Ray Celeste, she's one of the funniest people that I know.

Oh yeah.

And it's hilarious being able to hear that from her because she's also very good at having conversations and making people laugh and feeling included.

So it means a lot.

I'm definitely spoiled with Annie.

I always say she'd be a better podcast host than me.

Yeah.

Because her energy and her sentiment, but I don't have to compare.

I say that just kind of because it can be easy to say something like that, like, oh, you'd be better.

No competition, but she'd be really good.

And she did podcasts before I did.

Really?

Yeah.

Did she do a podcast or did she just listen to podcasts before you did?

She did a podcast.

Really?

Yeah.

So somewhere out there, there's a...

Not many people know, but she did a podcast for an internship that she had for a healthcare company in North Carolina when she was living in Charlotte for a little bit.

So she recorded two podcasts.

I remember listening to one of them being like, whoa, because her voice was professional.

She showed up ready to slay the day and she killed it.

Is that when you realized you were in the air here?

Yeah, after I listened to the podcast.

I'm so grateful that she didn't mess up.

No, she killed it and her energy on the mic was really good.

We're going to have to explore at some point because we officially have three cameras doing I don't know how to do it.

It'll take a lot of brainstorming, but how to get, I don't know, maybe on the couch somehow, but how to get to Annie and I and a guest on.

Yeah.

Be cool.

Because I'd love to see how our energy works whenever someone else is in there with the purpose of bringing the guest in on the conversation.

And I also feel like it's like, correct me if I'm wrong, but it's almost like working with your best friend, you know, like off and on and just been like talking with your best friend.

Like it's easy for me, especially for me to talk to my best friend, but like, you know, having that best friend be your wife, lifelong partner and being like, hey, let's have a conversation.

Oh, we can talk about anything now.

Let's do it.

You know, that's probably really cool to have.

It is really cool to have.

We were on a double date last night, and it was a funny experience because we were doing questions, and it's so funny opening up to your significant other, and then being able to listen to another couple open up to their significant other.

Double dates are really interesting.

We could do a whole episode about double dates.

Or just dating in general.

Dating in general, I feel like, would be a fun topic.

Dating would be a fun topic.

Especially for people our age.

I mean, we're only, what, five years apart or something like that, but still, that our time span of five years, I feel like it's such a, right now, it's such a pivotal moment between, I think, 21 and like 29.

It's a pivotal moment in your whole life, that eight-year gap.

You don't know really what's going on, you know, what you're doing or what you want to do, lest you do, because if you do, awesome, give me a call, because I'm still figuring that out.

But that's, I mean, that's such a big, like, life-changing moments right there.

Because you're 23.

About to be.

You're about to be 23, right?

So you're about to be Jordan year, Jordan year.

And then when I was 23, that was five years ago, which would be 2018.

So I had just graduated from University of Central Oklahoma.

I was living in North Carolina.

That was a wild time.

Yeah, trying to figure all life out.

And I'm still figuring life out, but I feel for being 23.

I remember I wanted a Michael Jordan Jersey so bad.

I didn't have enough money to buy one.

So I was looking around to borrow one from somebody, but I didn't really know that many people that much.

So it was a futile effort.

So if you can get a Jordan Jersey, then you've surpassed me.

Yeah, because I struggled, but 23 is a cool year.

23 is a great year.

Weirdly enough, I'm looking forward to 25.

25.

Because I feel like 25 is also a pretty good like, ah, 25 now, you know, like I know no one lives to 100 typically, but it's like kind of a quarter life like moment for me.

So 25, you are considered to be in your mid 20s.

Yeah, that's right, which is kind of crazy.

23, you're arguably mid 20s.

Yeah, true.

So you only have a little time left where you can say you're in your early 20s.

Ah, sorry, made me feel weird.

That's you're not wrong, right?

So like, but you're in your late 20s, right?

About to turn 30 a couple years.

So in my late 20s, but they say 30 is a new 20, right?

So and I feel like but every every like five years that jumps back.

So they're going to be like, oh, 40 is a new 20.

Oh, 50 is a new 20.

And you're like, well, I'm 75 years old.

I do not feel like 20 anymore.

We're getting our first jobs at 40 years old.

Yeah, no, 28 has been a really interesting year.

This year has been...

You know how sometimes you look back on a year and you think, do I have enough to show for how I spent this year?

No, and sometimes it feels like you look back on your year and you think to yourself, dang, it doesn't seem like that much happened, right?

This is an exception to that because this past year, maybe it's due to the creation process because the creation process is very cut and dry.

If it's unequivocal that this thing didn't exist and now it does, so that testifies to how you spent your time.

But there are some years where you look back and you're like, man, there's not that much.

But there could be a ton that was done.

You just don't have much to really show for it.

I think I'm spending a lot of my time recently, probably with emotional development and navigation.

But I can't pull out a Spotify analytics sheet for that.

You know what I mean?

Our 20s are like wrap ups on Spotify are pretty cool because you're like, oh, wow, I forgot that I listened to this song way back in the beginning of the year.

But I wish there was a way to kind of like wrap up your mind.

Like if you go back at the beginning of this.

Look at your growth.

Yeah, look at your growth.

Like, okay, so you grew in emotional, you know, and then you grew in like physical strength or something like that.

Like, I wish there was, I mean, there's probably in like a couple of hundred years with the technology we're developing.

It could be like, yeah, you can look at your growth in your your mindset, you know, what your thoughts were at the beginning of the year, where your thoughts are now, you know, what do you typically think about?

But like, I feel like you can also just do that normally by yourself.

Like, okay, at the beginning of the year, where was I?

I was blah, blah, blah.

I was doing blah, blah, blah.

And now I'm here.

Okay, so what changed now?

Yeah, yeah, I, that makes me think about goal setting, how it's so important to do that.

Yes.

And it would be really cool, though, to look back, and it says, like, your faith has grown this much, right?

Or your ability to communicate has grown this much, or the trust you've developed with your significant other has grown this much, or the love, your ability to express love to your parents has grown this much.

That'd be super awesome.

Yes.

And it's like, yeah, I was thinking about how awesome that would be if you just look back and just, wow, I've changed so much in a year.

In 365 days, you can change drastically.

I'm also thinking about how family communication, there's a lot there, and that could potentially be a cool episode too.

Studying how to communicate to your family members.

Or the average, or all the nuances with communicating to parents.

And there's probably a lot of...

Oh, and you know what?

The lack of, I was talking to my friend about this, the lack of communication from parent to kid.

From like literally just like either blood-related or non-blood-related, but just like how there is kind of a lack of, and I feel like as we grow older, or I guess as the world grows older, everyone, there is a slow decline of like communication from parent to child in all aspects of life.

You know, whether it be about like how to communicate to strangers or how to do taxes or what is taxes and all this stuff.

I feel like we're doing more and less and less of that talking to our kids.

Says a guy without kids, but just noticing that.

But you've met a lot of people who, and maybe you've been in the position to where maybe your parents didn't say something, or I know a lot of people to our parents didn't say something, and I can think of one conversation in particular, like when people talk about the birds and the bees, how the parents need to give that conversation.

Now, some parents will shy away from that because maybe they don't feel prepared.

And that one instance of a conversation, not introducing it, gives that kid a deficit.

They have a deficit of that information, not able to understand it.

And unless they get it elsewhere, then they won't be able to communicate it to their kids.

So it's fascinating to think about how all of the time we spend in putting our social health first and improving our social health and our ability to talk to those around us and build healthy relationships is going to help our kids.

Yes.

Yeah, because then we can talk to them and talk about subjects that may be difficult to talk about.

Or exemplify what healthy relationships look like so that they can have that in their life.

Yeah.

So it goes beyond the LinkedIn connections or having people show up to your birthday party.

It's an intergenerational thing.

Yeah.

And I think your parents are the first things you imitate when you come out, like when you were born, because you're with them 24-7.

You learn their mannerisms, it's like that.

So it's like how to implement good mannerisms, not just in yourself, but then that will bleed on to your kid.

You're being like, oh, okay, so my dad does this.

My dad shows real high quality, or he shows kindness in so many different ways.

Let me imitate him in the kindness that he is.

And then so forth, so forth.

And then you started a whole new generation of kindness people, which is kind of crazy.

Like if you think about it, how much power or how much influence you have on a kid, I guess it's really your own kid.

But like, yeah, it's a generational thing and so forth.

They're kids, they're kids, they're kids, and they'll just keep going down.

And it goes even further because I, by creating a third place for people, I'm giving them an opportunity to show up to grow in relational skills that are going to affect their kids.

So not only does it go up and down, but it also goes outwards, and then that can go down.

Yeah, true, true, true.

So it's like the tree roots, right?

And all of that happens just because I made that decision, that decision, or you make that decision to prioritize those human relationships and think about how could I be better at communicating my thoughts?

How could I be better at promoting ideas that are going to improve this world?

And then we can grow like a little tree.

Yeah.

And also, I think it's also about like, weirdly enough, legacy, because you most likely won't see what your kid looks like when they're like 75, you know?

But if you create a legacy for them, like for instance, this, the podcast, is creating a legacy for your kids, and then them watching it, be like, oh, this is how my dad emulates, or this is how my mom emulates this kind of personality trait, and building that kind of, planting that seed as, taking the quote from Hamilton, legacy is planting a seed in a garden that you never get to see.

Bang.

Yeah.

I love that line.

Is that from the president?

No, it's from Hamilton.

I believe, yeah, it's from Hamilton when he's at the end of his life, when Burr is about to shoot him.

Spoiler, if you haven't seen Hamilton.

It's been out for five years, you should go see it.

Yeah, and also the story has been even before that, right?

I guess the story of Hamilton in the musical is not the first time we've heard the story of Hamilton.

But I feel like for a lot of people, it was like for me, instance, I never knew Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton existed before the musical.

You're like, you just spoiled it.

And they're like, dude, it's in written history.

Go read a textbook, my guy.

Yeah, that's true.

It's not a spoiler.

It's information.

If you want to in a more like fun and musical kind of way, go watch some like Hamilton the musical.

But if you want to know the actual story, go read.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, thank you.

Shout out to the audience.

Yeah.

We are so grateful.

We.

Shout outs.

I mean, yeah, all those people that sent in your mom, Santiago, Krista, Angela, Angela, Angela.

Yep.

All those guys.

Thanks to you for submitting things.

Thank you for watching and being a part of the Talk to People Podcast.

It's been a crazy run this past year, but there's still more to come.

But wait, there's more because it's not it's not over yet.

And you know, we got some fun things planned, not only for the end of this year, but for the next year, too.

And what that all entails, like, you know, who knows?

But who knows?

John Cena does.

Yes, he does.

John Cena in the house.

OK, folks, shout out to those who send in the voicemails and the emails.

Know that you can always send stuff in.

We are going to be encouraged by it.

Sometimes there are moments where I'm like, oh, and to hear or to read something that's stuck out to you or that's put an imprint on your life means a lot.

So thank you.

And as always, we'll see you next time.